The two Indian Heads and two Wheats I dug from one site are perfect examples. Suzanne and I both hit this area of the park hard. Multiple hunts, gridding, etc. But
So an iffy signal is one that is not spot-on, sounds a little good (generally more higher toned and smooth than not) but isn't a perfect "dig me" signal. Knowing iffy signals with your metal detector is being able to tell what's trash and what's just barely better than a trash signal. It's a finer tuning of using your machine and your brain.
The two Indian Heads and two Wheats I dug from one site are perfect examples. Suzanne and I both hit this area of the park hard. Multiple hunts, gridding, etc. But
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They can be found, but are not easy to identify. I've located about five. All of mine have been in pocket spills with other coins. Sometimes there's enough detail to make our the bust of Lincoln or you can see the edges of the struck up rim, but not always.
This slangy phrase, "treasure hunter" or worse, "TH'er" is often seen in metal detecting literature. The term seems great for the marketing of metal detectors to those who think they can get rich quick.
"Treasure hunter" brings up visions of Mel Fisher, pieces-of-eight and the Atocha, but also can make a negative impression when trying to get permission to use our metal detectors on private property. By using this grandiose term to describe our searching we put the public off in several ways. The first Well, a year later I am ready to cover part 2 of my blog on finding nickels.
My hypothesis at the end of the last blog post was: Would opening the FE all the way from top to bottom for 12-13-14 result in more nickels? Is the FE value of nickels the trick? That would explain my friend's result with using Relic mode. It would also tend to support my supposition that the nickel "halo" is causing the nickels to read lower than FE 12 and more like/closer to iron. This will be by next experiment... which will be covered in Part 2. Did opening the FE all the way from top to bottom for 12-13-14 result in more nickels? No, not really. They all tended to stay right around the 12 line and in the accepted range for coins in These are the finds of my friend,Terry Barnhart (Goes4ever on the online forums). He was a Minelab X-Terra 70 wizard, but upgraded to the Minelab E-Trac this year. I think his finds, all made near his home in Van Wert, Ohio and even at sites he thought he had hunted out with the X-Terra are a phenomenal example of what someone can find in Ohio with the right equipment and the right mindset. He met and surpassed many of his detecting goals for the year, over 100 Indian Head cents, over 100 silver coins including two Seated Liberty and a gold class ring and a wide variety of relics.
Terry said, "I had the X-terra 70 for about a year and a half and my local Minelab dealer told me I'd do better with an E-Trac. I thought he was nuts, how could I do better? I was doing exceptionally well Just as the weather gets colder and the days get shorter, I have the best month of the year! Lots of firsts for me, and these are firsts in 20 years of detecting! Seated coin (dime), fatty Indian (1862), a Chinese cash coin, and a three ringer minie ball.
And on top of that, four large coppers, a two cent piece, 21 Indian heads, three shield nickels, two V nickels, five buffalo nickels - all with dates, 18 silver dimes, 1899 Barber quarter, four old Well, I was out on Dec. 31 in the snow looking for silver coin #300. I came home with a pocket of clad, that last one was just too elusive.
So, now I take stock and look back at a really fabulous year of detecting thanks to the Minelab E-Trac, which has definitely paid for iteslf in just 9 months (I started the detecting year mid-March with my Minelab Explorer SE). $349.63 in clad coins Over 4,700 total coins and tokens. 299 silver coins, 1244 wheat cents. Dozens of rings, most silver, two gold. 2009 was my 19th year of detecting, but by far this was truly the best year ever. In 2009, I found my first large cent and oldest coin, dated 1820. Then just a few weeks later, a second large Most of the online forum conversations I start about nickels either get no responses or a bunch of defensive talk about how the E-Trac finds plenty of nickels. In less trashy sites, I'm sure picking out nickel signals is a breeze, and if you run wide open and "dig all" I'm sure that works too. I've found some old nickels with the E-Trac, but nowhere near what I did with some of my older machines in the past.
Overall the buzz in the online forums is that while the E-Trac is a silver slayer, it is weak (but not useless) on nickels (and theoretically gold). My impression is that this is true. Air testing "How come I am not digging really deep targets with (my detector).The deepest I dug was about six inches and on the videos they're digging (coins at) like 11". Are there specific settings for digging deep coins...?"
I saw this post on the TreasureNet forum and it got me thinking. I often read these discussions online about detector depth. Way back when, depth was the "next big thing" a detector could offer. The marketing started to be all about depth. Now here we are and most modern detectors It seems to be easy to go accessory crazy with detecting. I think many times people who are not able to spend a lot of time detecting, instead start buying detecting accessories. Maybe these detectorists are not having much luck and think a new machine or a new coil is just the thing they need to make better finds.
When it comes to coils, this is a tough one to answer. Certainly for different types of detecting, having a smaller or larger coil can be an advantage. But 90% of the time the stock coil will give you good results for coinshooting. There are two main types of coils available, concentric and double-d (DD). Knowing which type your detector uses helps you understand how to get the most out of it. A concentric coil puts out a cone-shaped field (shaped like a O), the DD field is more like the "center slice" of the concentric (shaped like an I). There are quite a few different types of metal detector hobbyists. Seems the types of targets desired determine the types of detecting you do. Naturally, where you live plays a huge part in determining which kind of detectorist you are. Someone seeking colonial relics in Utah is going to have a pretty challenging and miserable experience! I've just put the finishing touches on organizing the metal detecting club links on my website. I created an entire list of defunct or clubs of unknown status. As I was researching and composing, a million ideas flew through my head about detecting clubs so I thought I'd set a few down here in a bit of a ramble.
First idea is leadership. Someone has to want to do it and inspire others to participate. It takes time and commitment. This is no small thing to ask for people who are trying find time to detect, hold down a job and have a home/family life. So, besides a leader, there need to be some This is a follow up to the question, “Are newer machines the key to older coins?" Online forum posters brought up operating frequencies and gold, so this addresses these two topics.
Looking at some online resources: "Lower frequencies penetrate more deeply but higher frequencies are more sensitive to smaller targets." "Different metals respond better to different frequencies which is why all gold detectors run at 15 khz and up." "The lower the freq. such as 3 Khz will be sensitive in detecting copper and silver targets. Higher freq. such as 15 to 60 Khz will A silver coin showing hairline rub scratches. A topic as old as the ages. Here's the simple statement that people read too late or don't believe. Cleaned old coins are 99% of the time worth LESS than uncleaned coins. Let's do silver coins first, as this is where I see the most damage being done: If you find a silver coin (dated 1964 or earlier for most US coins) with your metal detector, with soil stuck on the surface of the coin, rubbing it in the field is as bad as cleaning it. The soil is VERY abrasive and leaves hairline scratches, the same as many harsh cleaning methods. Regardless of the condition of the coin, poor to mint state, soil rubbed across the surface will leave scratches that downgrade any potential value the coin may have. Don't rub silver coins fresh from the ground. So you're saying to yourself, so then, Mr. Smarty Pants, how do I get the dirt off this coin so I I am saddened by the demise of the local detector dealer. The cheery faces shown beaming behind fully stocked multi-line counters in the old detecting books are gone. Some now retired, some deceased, and for those left it's been harder and harder for them to make ends meet. All of us in the metal detecting community bear some of the blame for the end of the local shop. Manufacturers have squeezed the little guys, requiring larger minimums and greater sales volumes - offering greater discounts to mass merchandisers. Consumers have been driven to the internet looking for the lowest price, and relying on online forums for information. Let's take stock of what the local dealer offers us: The Federation of Metal Detecting and Archaeological Club (FMDAC) Code of Ethics can be found here: http://www.fmdac.org/about/codeofethics.htm YES! If you are serious about finding old coins in hunted out sites the Minelab Explorer or E-Trac are what you need. I've been detecting for 19 years, so I'm old school (though not as old as some) and new school. My first machine was a White's Classic II. I was swinging Fisher CZs for years and finding a few silver coins - maybe 10-20 per year. Last year with the Explorer, I got 51 silver. This year I have 127 silver coins in about 3 months of digging. The majority of these are from the same sites I have been hitting for years.
If you look at the people who are serious about silver and finding 100+ silver coins in hunted out Cleaning modern coins to make them "spendable" again is best done with a rock tumbler. Water, soap, gravel and coins go in for a few hours and come out presentable enough to be acceptable. Harbor Freight offers an inexpensive and effective rock tumbler that works well, provided you take some common-sense care in using it. The weak point in the design of this tumbler is the belt, but following these tips below will help your tumbler run better and your motor and belt last longer. The original belt should last quite a while if it is adjusted properly and you are not overloading the tumbler. In a pinch "standard" size 1/4" wide rubber bands work as belts too, but long term use of them can damage the plastic pulleys. Make sure you adjust the spacing of the two pulleys (yes, this is adjustable) to be just enough that the belt is not too loose (i.e. it just catches). This keeps the belt at the right tension and not too tight. If it is too tight it will work, but it will stress the belt. Don't overload the tumbler. It is rated for 3#. If you are filling it to the brim with coins, rocks and water it is too full and too heavy. This stresses the motor and the belt. Ideally the tumbler should be no more than 1/2 full of rocks and coins and no more than 3/4 full when you add water. Besides saving the motor and the belt life, a properly loaded (not overloaded) tumbler works better and faster at cleaning your coins as the material has room to move around in the drum. Replacement belts can be located cheaply on eBay and are typically as good or better than the original belt. Many rock shops and lapidary stores sell them in retail stores and online too. Secret #1 - Minelab Explorer or E-Trac. I have never found as much silver as I have with Minelab machines. It's unreal what I've literally walked over for years with other machines. If you look at the serious hunters who find tons of old coins in hunted out parks 9 times out of 10 they have Explorers. In my first 15 or so years of detecting I found 200 silver coins. In the past two years with Minelab machines I have found 150, from the SAME sites I was hitting years ago. First of all, you need to choose a machine that you are comfortable with. Weight, handle/grips, shaft angles, buttons and switches. This is a good reason to find a local dealer or visit your nearest detecting club to actually have a hands on experience. Sure we can learn and adapt to a lot of things, but if the machine is uncomfortable we're probably not going to use it, or put in the time needed to master it. I wrote the following response to the post below on the TreasureNet forum. Just thought folks would like to see these E-Trac numbers. I tested 33 war nickels and the results varied quite a bit. I am curious as to why dug indian heads and early wheats come out of the ground with such nice green patina. It's too much for me to believe this is just chance that coins after the mid-1920's do not exhibit this patination. Two cent pieces minted from 1864 to 1872 also have these same characteristics. Canadian Cents
Canadian cents both large and small also display some of the same attractive smooth green patination as early American small cents. The Canadians were more forthcoming in the specific content of their alloy. From 1876 to 1941, their cents were minted from 95.5% copper, 3% tin and 1.5% zinc. |
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